Here is a post by Paul Krugman which puts this in its place:
The Case of the Mystery StudyThis is a scandal. McKinsey is obviously putting together political propaganda to sabotage the Democrat's health care bill by putting out a rumour that private companies were abandoning their health care plans. This kind of "dirty tricks" campaign is sleazy. It should be getting top billing. But nope. The "media" has decided that idiotic can't-keep-it-in-their-pants behaviour deserves top billing. Oh, and the media has joined the pitchforks-and-torch crowd wanting to "string 'em up!"
Oh, wow. From Greg Sargent:The other day, the consulting company McKinsey released a startling study claiming that 30 percent of employers are planning to stop giving health insurance to their workers as a result of the Affordable Care Act. The study received a good deal of press coverage and was widely bandied about by conservative politicians and media outlets as proof that conservative warnings about the law are coming to pass.One has to assume that there was something terribly wrong with the study. At any rate, nobody should be citing it until or unless McKinsey comes clean.
But as a number of critics were quick to point out, McKinsey’s finding is at odds with many other studies — and the company did not release key portions of the study’s methodology, making it impossible to evaluate the study’s validity.
There’s now been a new twist in this story.
I’m told that the White House, as well as top Democrats on key House and Senate committees, have privately contacted McKinsey to ask for details on the study’s methodology. According to an Obama administration official and a source on the House Ways and Means Committee, the company refused.
Oh, and if you ask me, this is a lot more important than some sex scandal.
Update: The plot thickens. Brian Beutler reports:But multiple sources both within and outside the firm tell TPM the survey was not conducted using McKinsey’s typical, meticulous methodology. Indeed, the article the firm published was not intended to give the subject matter the same authoritative treatment as more thorough studies on the same topic — particularly those conducted by numerous think tanks, and the Congressional Budget Office, which came to the opposite conclusion. And that’s created a clamor within the firm at high levels to set the record straight.
“This particular survey wasn’t designed in away that would allow it to be peer review published or cited academically,” said one source familiar with the controversy.
All sources were granted anonymity, in order to be able to speak candidly about the controversy.
Reached for comment today, a McKinsey spokesperson once again declined to release the survey materials, or to comment beyond saying that, for the moment, McKinsey will let the study speak for itself. However, McKinsey notes that the survey is only one indicator of employers’ potential future actions — that the conclusions remain uncertain and employers’ future decisions will ultimately depend on numerous variables. The three authors of the report were not immediately available for comment.
Another keyed-in source says McKinsey is unlikely to release the survey materials because “it would be damaging to them.”
Both sources disagree with the results of the survey, which was devised by consultants without particular expertise in this area, not by the firm’s health experts.
Funny... here is a list of Republican Congressional sex scandals over the last half dozen years. In none of these cases did the Republicans mount a campaign screaming "you must resign!" and the media didn't join in hounding the legislator out of office. Why the uneven behaviour? Why is Weiner selected for "special treatment"?
- Chris Lee – was sexting pictures of himself, but he removed himself too quickly to let much public outrage build (this is the closest to the Weiner scandal)
- Mark Souder – had an affair with a staffer
- Chip Pickering – had an affair, didn’t resign, but chose not to run in the next election
- John Ensign -- he not only had an affair with a staffer, but he had his parents pay hush money to the husband!
- Vito Fossella – guilty of drunk driving, having extramarital sex, and fathering a bastard
- Larry Craig – caught for lewd behaviour in an airport restroom (he claims it was all a misunderstanding about his desire to have a ‘wide stance’), this was attempting to procure gay sex by a politician who publicly called for laws against gays!
- Mark Foley – who sent text messages to underage boys (like Weiner, but worse because it was both underage and it was “gay” sex which of course Foley publicly said was “unacceptable behaviour since the official stance of the Republican party is anti-gay)
- Ed Schrock – solicited sex from a male prostitute
- Don Sherwood – had an extramarital affair and on top of that he physically abused the woman!
- David Vitter - had an extramarital affair and his name was in the little black book of the infamous Washington DC madam Deborah Jeane Palfray while selling himself as a "family values" man who was for "abstinance education" and against gay marriage.
For the braying crazies hot on Anthony Weiner's case:
- Polls show that his constituents want him to stay in office and to continue to represent him. For anybody other than a constituent to try and deny the democratic rights of those citizens to be represented by a person of their own choice fails to understand the principles of democracy and the Constitution of the US.
- All those Christian "family values" types who want to crucify Anthony Weiner should pull out their Bibles and read John 8:7 "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." Hypocrites!
4 comments:
RY;
I think anything to divide the Democrats is used by the republicans..
There is a lot written about this on various sites and comments on those sites, but James Fallows has a very level headed post on it here and previous to that one. I wondered from the start of this; how much or what is being hidden from the American people by concentrating on this story?
I think if this is to be our focus then lets focus on all of the congressmen's email and text messages and twitter posts.. Why don't we spend the year just looking at what really should be private stuff? How many would freely turn over all of their communications records? I think it a little suspicious that one man has been focused on. And, how bout any one who brings a story like this is subjected to scrutiny, too? Maybe they would not like what Jesus would write in the dirt any more than those on that day who walked away in shame..
Thanks for the comment Thomas and the link to Fallows. I looked at his post. It isn't the pitchforks-and-torches response, but he is selling the idea that Weiner needs to step down and "take one for the team" because he "let the team down".
But to my mind that is the wrong take. Weiner didn't get elected to help other Democrats feel good or make the Republicans feel smug. He got elected to represent his district. Until his district says "enough" they should lay off him.
As for the "ethics" committees of the US Congress. They are a joke. Disband them. They are far too "political", uneven, and useless.
They should stick with the US Constitution, Article 2, Section 4, that lays out impeachment as the technique to deal with " Treason, Bribery, or other High crimes and Misdemeanors". Keep it simple. If the Congress thinks sexting is the basis for impeachment, then go for it. Otherwise, get back to business and lay off the salacious stuff. That's for the society pages and for gossip. The US is faces serious problems and those problems should be foremost, front and centre, in the minds of all legislators and the President. Fix the real problems! Leave the preaching and the morality police to those outside government.
I see the idea that he has let Democrats down, but then I also know that his bosses are those who elected him. So, I agree with your view and don't agree with Polosi and others asking him to step down. They are not worried about his constituency but about their image and the party politics.. I was interested in one of the letters to Fallows that claimed a conspiracy type thing going on. I am like Fallows and don't think it goes quite that far, but a lot of attention has been directed toward this silliness while other things more important are afoot. Intentional or not, it has been an effective tool of deception.
What ever it is or isn't; I am with you on letting the voters deal with it since it will effect them and they are the ones who elected him. If they are OK with him then..
Thomas: I agree, it isn't a "conscious" conspiracy. The media and the Republicans and even most of the Democrats don't personally know anybody out of work or has lost a home to foreclosure or has lots their pension or is facing the likely loss of their job. The Americans with these problems are like natives in darkest Africa in the 19th century. I wouldn't be surprised if all these "elites" didn't expect that people with this kind of problem are "mythical". They don't really believe they exist because they don't see them, they don't bump into them in their social circles. They see no urgency because nobody they knows suffers from any of these economical afflictions of a struggling US economy. The elites all have good paying jobs, job security, good pensions, and great prospects. So what's the problem? Why make a fuss over needing to "change" things?
I know, Obama electioneered over "change you can believe in" but that was then and now is now. Obama doesn't see any suffering. He's a cautious guy and thinks all this talk about "slow recovery" and "unemployment" is just exaggeration. Like he and his administration have been telling everybody, the recovery is well underway, it is strong but maybe not as strong has he would like, but it is on track and people need to be patient. When told that it make take a decade to get back to the employment levels of 2006-7, Obama just doesn't believe it. His advisors have assured him that making the big Wall Street banks "whole" the problem has been solved and all anybody can do now is "wait".
These people aren't sneaking around organizing a "conspiracy". they live in the world of the top 10% (more like top 2%) and that segment of society didn't suffer unemployment, foreclosure, lost pensions, etc. The only problem they had was the precipitous 40% drop in stock prices. Yes! That was a real haircut. If you had $10 million in early 2008 you had only $6 million by March 2009. But by now, you are back to very close to $10 million with your investments, so "problem fixed"! The "economy" has come back!
These people don't see the gutted industrial jobs, the waves of unemployment, and the despair of having lost you house and being unemployed for two years. From their eyrie at the pinnacle of society, these are all invisible "non problems"!!! These are half-believed "statistics". These are folk myths. All the well-heeled have been "made whole" from the losses of 2008, so they've put that behind them and are busy peering into the future for more challenges, more money-making opportunities.
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